Forum Mafia - Shawshank Redemption - Salvation lies within

[Exalt]

Actually Voth, I don't care what you do, because you can't get rid of me. I'm literally unkillable now thanks to Field. That's probably why he sent it to me. I don't really care why he would send a vest to me and not to you. Take that up with him post-game. All I know is that Jessup is scum, and if the game isn't over after she flips red, we might have to lynch you next.

[Exalt]

Did I miss how you can confirm that field didn't visit a PGO last night? Is that just because you claim he gave you a bulletproof vest? PGOs are not typically scum roles but it's not impossible. Even mafia scum says it's uncommon but that doesn't mean it's impossible.

I take issue with that claim anyway. Why would field provide you with a bulletproof vest when him and I were tied together through both him getting my role in PM and me investigating him N1? Why would he give you, someone not even a hair more than 50/50 town, a vest rather than me, who he knows is town? That doesn't seem like a field move to me.

Are you fucking serious? A PGO would just claim by now to say what happened.

Voth, are you scumbuddies with Jessup? No wonder you made some elaborate bullshit as to why you wouldn't fight with Scarlet this game. You're not using your brain at all. You have some fucking Jessup logic going on right now. You think Field visited a PGO, but then who the fuck did scum kill then?

[Exalt]

I assume scum has a manipulative role of some type. Like Captain or Redirector or Deflector or some other role that fucked up my action last night. I probably got success because I was sent to someone else other than field. It is either something like this or I am a Na?ve doc which seems very unlikely considering the roles so far revealed by town flips.

Exalt

Exalt..You have ZERO proof kassius put scarlet into "solitary" and the fact you are saying this is BS. All you have done all game is make grandiose statements about how you would block votes but never did so or how you locked yourself in solitary but there is ZERO proof you have done this either.. or that field gave you a bullet proof vest but you again have ZERO proof of that either.

Again Kassius' wildcard claim is complete BS and kass needs to go . Kass is the mafia jailor..

Exalt seems to be pulling out all the stops to protect kass who is totally unconfirmed. My claim I made was legit and a full claim under duress D1 to save myself while KAssius' claim is BS and was made under no duress and was a purposeful scum ploy set in motion by them to dilute roles like Town watcher, tracker and voyeur results because kass is creeping around jailing a townie each night.

Both KAss and Exalt came out to sow doubt when I said I jailed myself N2. Both are scum.

You're right that I don't have proof about what Kassius did N2. I'm simply stating what he said. I do have proof of what I did though, which is put myself in Solitary. That could've stopped a kill too.

Besides, Kassius CLAIMED he did something at the very least, and there's some evidence to back it up based on the circumstances surrounding it. What you've been claiming doesn't make sense. That's why I'm voting you. You refuse to even discuss what happened last night as to why you possibly could've succeeded at protecting Field, yet he still died. You just ignore that as if it doesn't matter, yet it literally is the reason you're being voted by everyone. You can't hide from it.

The only thing you've done so far is to throw shade around claiming I'm protecting Kassius, or everyone other person in the game is scum, while not admitting the obvious: Your story does not make sense. Sorry, but you're flailing.

I think kassius jailed someone like beast or PF or M_Leo or perhaps even voth and is full of shit.

I think Field was a paranoid gun/knife owner and scarlet went for the kill resulting in BOTH deaths.

I think Exalt used some manipulative scum redirection/bussing role on me causing me to get success on someone else while field died even though I protected field.

THIS IS MOST LIKELY SCENARIO.

Um... okay? So you're saying Voth/Beast are lying?

You think Field was a PGO? What the fuck? I already said he literally sent me a BP Vest last night. His role flipped SMUGGLER, not PGO. His character was Red from the movie, the guy who 'gets things' for people. Use your brain Jessup. This is terrible flailing. You can do better than that.

Also, you now say there has to be a bus driver or something, all to frame you in some elaborate scheme to kill Field, when Halp could've just strongmanned you N2 and then killed Field N3 without ever giving a single fuck about what you might do. Right.

[Voth]

So here's what I know.

Zeebu passed me a note last night which pretty much confirms someone as town unless Kthx is playing the sickest joke in history. Zeebu says the note is about Willby, so Willby is confirmed town. I assume that confirms zeebu as well because why would an anti-town player confirm a townie to a confirmed townie? Makes no sense.

That said, Jessup looks awfully guilty, but Exalt and Kassius are a grouped together entity in my mind since early on when Exalt was displaying what I would call nicely "selective" reasoning with regards to Kassius and the whole issue with Willby. Exalt does not make me feel like pro-town Exalt normally does. I'm not comfortable with him or Kassius and both of them have made me scum radar go off in various ways. I'm not sure how to make heads or tails of this with everything against Jessup too because unless they decided to bus their least common denominator, I don't have any explanation.

Willby, zeebu, unless Kthx is pulling a sick joke, you're town with me. So let's figure this out.

[WillBy]

Wow, my brain hurts... thanks for that, Jessup.

The brain damage is contagious.

THIS IS THE MOST LIKELY SCENARIO.

[Voth]

Wow, my brain hurts... thanks for that, Jessup.

[Jessup]

I know field flipped smuggler but it was all these x shots that were different he had.. x shot PGO was probably used or part of his role in a passive way certain nights or something to this effect. Seems like this game has tons of xshot's in it

[Jessup]

I think Jessup or another remaining scum did the night kill. Remember my action copies, it does not steal, so there was likely 2 night kills last night, unless we have a Vigi. I have no idea what I did to scarlett last night, just that it was successful.

I think kassius jailed someone like beast or PF or M_Leo or perhaps even voth and is full of shit.

I think Field was a paranoid gun/knife owner and scarlet went for the kill resulting in BOTH deaths.

I think Exalt used some manipulative scum redirection/bussing role on me causing me to get success on someone else while field died even though I protected field.

THIS IS MOST LIKELY SCENARIO.

[Jessup]

I assume scum has a manipulative role of some type. Like Captain or Redirector or Deflector or some other role that fucked up my action last night. I probably got success because I was sent to someone else other than field. It is either something like this or I am a Na?ve doc which seems very unlikely considering the roles so far revealed by town flips.

Exalt

Exalt..You have ZERO proof kassius put scarlet into "solitary" and the fact you are saying this is BS. All you have done all game is make grandiose statements about how you would block votes but never did so or how you locked yourself in solitary but there is ZERO proof you have done this either.. or that field gave you a bullet proof vest but you again have ZERO proof of that either.

Again Kassius' wildcard claim is complete BS and kass needs to go . Kass is the mafia jailor..

Exalt seems to be pulling out all the stops to protect kass who is totally unconfirmed. My claim I made was legit and a full claim under duress D1 to save myself while KAssius' claim is BS and was made under no duress and was a purposeful scum ploy set in motion by them to dilute roles like Town watcher, tracker and voyeur results because kass is creeping around jailing a townie each night.

Both KAss and Exalt came out to sow doubt when I said I jailed myself N2. Both are scum.

edit.. **when I said I protected myself as doc N2 .. **

[Kassius]

How does that add up? If you killed Scarlet by way of the mafia kill, how did field die?

I think Jessup or another remaining scum did the night kill. Remember my action copies, it does not steal, so there was likely 2 night kills last night, unless we have a Vigi. I have no idea what I did to scarlett last night, just that it was successful.

[Voth]

For one thing, she claimed doctor, yet protected nobody except herself (on N2 btw), yet this was after claiming Doc at EoD1 and with Halp being a strongman and alive. Halp got lynched D3, not D2. N3 she claims she protected Field, yet Field died and there is no longer Halp to strongman it. She also didnt say her result 'failed' as if she was RBed, and I can confirm that Field did not visit a PGO or anything last night.

PS: Field's role combined with the self-Solitary (jailkeeper) actions means a doctor was not needed in this setup, not to mention Field provided a reason for a strongman to exist. Also, my theory about Paul being a BP recruiter who died trying to recruit scum is still probably correct.

So what I'm saying is, Jessup is lying, and not normal town Jessup lying. Jessup is lying scum.

Did I miss how you can confirm that field didn't visit a PGO last night? Is that just because you claim he gave you a bulletproof vest? PGOs are not typically scum roles but it's not impossible. Even mafia scum says it's uncommon but that doesn't mean it's impossible.

I take issue with that claim anyway. Why would field provide you with a bulletproof vest when him and I were tied together through both him getting my role in PM and me investigating him N1? Why would he give you, someone not even a hair more than 50/50 town, a vest rather than me, who he knows is town? That doesn't seem like a field move to me.

[Jessup]

I suspect willby is scum or survivor too. Willby is definitely not to be trusted..

[Voth]

Oh I think I killed Scarlet lol.

Kthx just pmed me and said he forgot to do the action on Beast, so it was on my original target, Scarlet. Well, I just got 'Success' for once. Guess I drew the Mafia kill, unless anyone can suggest a Vigi that killed maybe tp N1 and scarlet N3?

How does that add up? If you killed Scarlet by way of the mafia kill, how did field die?

[Jessup]

So the sudden massive vote train on Jessup and then sudden drop off in activity is worrisome. I voted Jessup a) because there is inexplicable things going on with him and b) because I also wanted to see how things went if I voted for him.

So Jessup, I'm still open to changing my vote. How can you possibly explain field dying if you successfully protected him and the Strongman is dead?

Give me one reasonable explanation for it other than the fact that you just are not the Doctor at all.

I assume scum has a manipulative role of some type. Like Captain or Redirector or Deflector or some other role that fucked up my action last night. I probably got success because I was sent to someone else other than field. It is either something like this or I am a Na?ve doc which seems very unlikely considering the roles so far revealed by town flips.

Exalt

Exalt..You have ZERO proof kassius put scarlet into "solitary" and the fact you are saying this is BS. All you have done all game is make grandiose statements about how you would block votes but never did so or how you locked yourself in solitary but there is ZERO proof you have done this either.. or that field gave you a bullet proof vest but you again have ZERO proof of that either.

Again Kassius' wildcard claim is complete BS and kass needs to go . Kass is the mafia jailor..

Exalt seems to be pulling out all the stops to protect kass who is totally unconfirmed. My claim I made was legit and a full claim under duress D1 to save myself while KAssius' claim is BS and was made under no duress and was a purposeful scum ploy set in motion by them to dilute roles like Town watcher, tracker and voyeur results because kass is creeping around jailing a townie each night.

Both KAss and Exalt came out to sow doubt when I said I jailed myself N2. Both are scum.

[WillBy]

I get what you're saying Voth, that it all happened a bit too quickly. But as both you and Exalt pointed out, no part of Jessups story adds up. I think everyone acting in towns interest should be questioning the claims made when the only reasonable explanation is that Jessup is lying. But where are her mafia teammates to muddy the waters? They're dead or afk.