American Elections '08

[Zerzera]

gets sent out to war for people like you to bitch about how much money we make... go fuck yourself

For people like me? You indoctrinated warmonger. You stupid bigot.
You must be pretty retarded, taking an underpaid job to fight for people like me. I will tell you this; if I do represent a group of people, I can tell you they give shit about you, your life or your cause.

[Zerzera]

I hope you say this one day in public so you get your ass beat. What an uncaring piece of shit you are. The only good thing about people like you is that it removes the racial barrier, it allows all minorities to stand together along with the white guys to hate on the same one person, and kick the shit out of him... meaning you.

Do me a favor, go up to some parents of soldiers, and express your view to them. My guess is you would never do that, but of course on the internet behind the safety of a computer you will. Your a piece of trash.

Do you live in Afghanistan or something? Thank God I live in a civilized country, we don't have raging mobs here. We are quite a free country.

EDIT: Sorry, you did allow coloured people to stand with the great white man, you are so noble

EDIT 2: No rofl, really we are laughing here. What racial barrier? hahaha FoR just lifted a racial barrier? HAHAHAHA racial barrier? What is that? Despite their racial handicap coloured people join with you to kick the shit out of people who dislike oppression and violence?

[RednaZ]

i was a soldier too

and yeah, its true, whoever gives us the most money increase wins our vote... and guess what? thats how it should be... because the military is drastically underpaid for the amount of hours they put in everyday.... half of the military makes less than the poverty level and then gets sent out to war for people like you to bitch about how much money we make... go fuck yourself

If you're going for my benefit, please stop, because I am not benefitting. US went to war against UN ruling and for some silly reason our decency compells us to help out anyway. If anything, you're costing me tax money and I gain nothing.

[Fit of Rage]

I hope you say this one day in public so you get your ass beat. What an uncaring piece of shit you are. The only good thing about people like you is that it removes the racial barrier, it allows all minorities to stand together along with the white guys to hate on the same one person, and kick the shit out of him... meaning you.

Do me a favor, go up to some parents of soldiers, and express your view to them. My guess is you would never do that, but of course on the internet behind the safety of a computer you will. Your a piece of trash.

For your information, my father was in the Air Force for 20 years, away from me for months or even years at a time (during Desert Storm). His last mission was to Afghanistan in 2002. Don't give that bullshit about not understanding military life, I was raised in the middle of it. My father and a hell of a lot of other good men go to places like Iraq because they were ordered to and it's their job, not necessarily because they agree with the decisions made by people higher up on the food chain.

I'm not going to turn this into an Iraq debate, but I think Al Gore said it best:

"... Saddam Hussein was not the one responsible for the attack on 9/11. Maybe we shouldn't have withdrawn most of our troops from the surge in Afghanistan, where Osama bin Laden was and invade a country that didn't attack us."

[Vatican Assassin]

BTW VA, i notice that all you like to do is try to pick on peoples posts on here...must be easy when you dont have any point of view of your own

when you're done discussing who's country is the bestest we might start talking abot somehing that i do have a point of view on.

[Cops]

And this is why Canada has never been a world superpower

Canada has never seized any opportunity to assert itself more in the world...that would require pissing someone off and apparently no one here would ever do that...

• South Korea stands today because of Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry

• Newfoundland lost almost every single man it sent to World War II, we lost something like 9 out of 10.

• The HMCS Toronto was one of the first NATO ships to respond to the Volcano in Yemen.

• Afghanistan is occupied by Canadian troops who have lost their lkives just like their American brothers.

• Canada is currently involved in Afghanistan, it's believed we will take control of NATO operations in 2008

• Lester B. Pearson created the United Nations Emergency Force of (UNEF)

• We were a huge turning point in World War I, Vimy Ridge seemed un-takeable so the British left it up to us to try and take it. Canada was able to create elaborate tunnels and practiced on models in preperation. Four Victoria Crosses were awarded in the battle. 3000 Canadians were KIA, and another 7000 were wounded. 20,000 Germans were wounded and 4000 were captured.

For someone who claims to be apart of the millitary you sure don't know a about it.

[Izor]

• South Korea stands today because of Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry

• Newfoundland lost almost every single man it sent to World War II, we lost something like 9 out of 10.

• The HMCS Toronto was one of the first NATO ships to respond to the Volcano in Yemen.

• Afghanistan is occupied by Canadian troops who have lost their lkives just like their American brothers.

• Canada is currently involved in Afghanistan, it's believed we will take control of NATO operations in 2008

• Lester B. Pearson created the United Nations Emergency Force of (UNEF)

For someone who claims to be apart of the millitary you sure don't know a about it.

What the hell is the United Nations Emergency Force? Whatever it is, it has United Nations in it so its useless.

Looking at your casualty numbers from WW2, it just tells me you're bad at war. If you were like the US you would have just used a nuke to save time and lives.

If I see near as many Canadians in Afghanistan I'll be sure to come to these forums and apologize to you, but something tells me the ratio wont be anything close to 10:1

Humanitarian missions dont mean you've asserted yourself in the world.


Sorry, FoR, but did your dad die over in Iraq or something? If so I can see why you're bitter, because you dont think he wanted to go. If not then he did a piss poor job raising his son.


Rednaz, see above for comments on the UN being useless as usual. Americans dont even think of the UN as a real entity anymore. I dont know why you guys do.

Zerz, trying to use big words doesnt get your point across anymore...you still have some hatred toward soldiers that is unjustified. What you believe about us being the reason for fighting and how if there were no soldiers there would be no wars makes sense if this were an ideal world, but it isnt. Since you cant convince our enemy to stop fighting us, it would be a bad survival instinct for us to not have an army. But you dont get that...

[Zerzera]

Zerz, trying to use big words doesnt get your point across anymore...you still have some hatred toward soldiers that is unjustified. What you believe about us being the reason for fighting and how if there were no soldiers there would be no wars makes sense if this were an ideal world, but it isnt. Since you cant convince our enemy to stop fighting us, it would be a bad survival instinct for us to not have an army. But you dont get that...

Yes, it never came to your mind that with some of the modern weapons, your army is rendered useless. The United States of America don't need an army anymore. They can strike back like no other country -or like any other country- when a line is crossed. No country will ever attack a peaceful United States, even if they could manage an invasion logistically. So your survival instinct, which is not only primal an barbaric, is also misplaced.

What's left is warmongering, just for the sake of it. Because you have an army to harbor the weak minded, to pay for this you send them away on plundering missions. How is that going to make your country safer? It isn't going to make your country safer. You just increase the amount of radicals because you expose more people to war and the loss that comes from it.
Allied countries are less likely to breed radicals than enemy states, especially when you treat them with respect.

I know the world is far from perfect, and with people like you it's even further from perfect. But I don't mind that much, I think you have a right to live and entitled to your opinion. There are a lot people that are a lot worse than you. I just wish you would leave other people alone a bit more.
There's no reason to make the world a worser place, just because it isn't perfect.

Canada and the Netherlands are countries that must be counted under your closest allies, and just see how you get along with us and how you disrespect us for being interested in your politics.
I remember I watched the outcome of the elections in 1992, between Bush H W and Clinton. The interest didn't come with Bush W here.

[Kolar]

Party first, spin second arrogance third. And when in doubt or under pressure denounce them and their opinion as liberal or Anti-Western.

[Epinephrine]

Trying to reason with someone who's far more interested in taking sideswipes and walking off usually doesn't work. I'll add this, though:

Paul has said it before: We were designed to be a republic, not an empire. We don't need troops stationed across Europe, not to mention troops who are STILL placed in South Korea and other places. It's a problem many superpowers/empires have dealt with in the past. They continued to spread their armies and customs around the world, and what happened to these great powers? That's what I thought... They collapse. They dissolve. They come to the realization that such a presence across the entire world simply isn't possible for any extended amount of time.

Apparently Epi was trying to say we would no longer be such a world player or project as much military force around the world if someone like Paul was elected. Projection of military force is a part of being such a superpower after all. I guess staying strong internationally at the expense of our people is ok, because if not we're ignorant isolationists right?

It would probably be GREAT for China and Russia if the US military just pulled out altogether. If the US pulled out of all the world organizations (i.e. WTO, UN, etc) that it FOUNDED it would also mean that the US would stop mattering in world security, world trade, world anything. Without having a real voice in the world in any forum that mattered, the US wouldn't matter anymore because decisions made around the world would be made without any credible input from the US.

Sure the US would still be an economic power, but so is Japan, and does anyone out there seriously care what Japan thinks? And why is that? Well Japan doesn't have a leading role in any world organization, nor does it have the will or muscle for that, and a Ron Paul America would guarantee that as well.

And yes, unless Congress goes the way of Ron Paul as well, it would basically mean 4 years of government standstill as Ron Paul goes for policies that no critical majority would ever vote for. Repeal the Fed? Remove the FDA? God what other moronic ideas will this guy do that no one else would ever support?

So it would be funny if he won. I'm not American, so if you guys aren't #1 anymore, I wouldn't care THAT much.

[Izor]

How the FUCK is the Netherlands one of our closest allies? They dont register on my radar of even somewhat useful countries, and that list even includes canada and the uk.

We didnt do anything to provoke 911 (please dont start this argument in response to this statement either, as you know it was a low blow). You cant call it an invasion, but it is an act of war that needs to be dealt with to ensure the safety of our people. I dont see a way to stop future attacks other than to seek and destroy. By your logic, creating loss will just prolong the cycle as habeeb's 40 sons will grow up hating america since we killed their father, but it doesnt matter because if they get too rowdy and want to do anything about it we will just put them down like a stray mutt. Eventually, habeebs grandsons or great grandsons will realize that maybe they should cooperate with us. Evolution is a great thing

You say that no one would invade a peaceful United States, but not too long ago Germany was invading many peaceful European countries. Perhaps you dont understand human nature? Or maybe you'll just rely on us to bail you out again when someone invades you. Thats what separates our countries. Our citizens dont claim internet addiction to get out of military service. We're willing to do whats necessary to make our world a better place, and we really dont care what the rest of the world thinks about it, because in the end all they're doing is whining at us to stop.

[Izor]

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOL Epinephrine you lost all credibility when you said that if we pulled out of the UN, we would lose our voice in any world forum that matters.

[Epinephrine]

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOL Epinephrine you lost all credibility when you said that if we pulled out of the UN, we would lose our voice in any world forum that matters.

Thanks Izor. Coming from you, that means a lot.

Even John Bolton thinks the UN is useful.
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...684527,00.html

[Izor]

Like I know who 'John Bolton' is or care

[Vatican Assassin]

If you were like the US you would have just used a nuke to save time and lives.

Sorry, FoR, but did your dad die over in Iraq or something? If so I can see why you're bitter, because you dont think he wanted to go. If not then he did a piss poor job raising his son.

man we saved so many lives with those nuke bombs.

what you said to fit of rage is just one of the classiest things i've ever seen