Hamas and Israel

[Summa]

I didn't say that directly to you and for what you said. I was cynical about what you can hear in many sites and forums by Muslims.
Please cool down :wub:

p.s

BOYCOTT ISRAEL!!!

Usually when you quote someone it is assumed that you are speaking directly to them, as is demonstrated by me quoting you!

Regards,

SQUEEZ!!!! I WAS SUPPOSED TO GET AN EMAIL FROM YOU AND I DON'T SEE IT!!!!! *SADFACE*

[raizin]

Its fucking bullshit how we have to attack a member of our community because his country is defending itself.

Farscape, your people are right, if those idiot mother fuckers keep wanting to throw pebbles at your country, drop boulders on those mother fuckers and show them who is boss.

[Scoop]

Its fucking bullshit how we have to attack a member of our community because his country is defending itself.

Farscape, your people are right, if those idiot mother fuckers keep wanting to throw pebbles at your country, drop boulders on those mother fuckers and show them who is boss.

agreed

[Exalt]

im SO going to get trashed by this, but here's my thoughts on this:

GENESIS 9:25 (from the Bible, Old Testament first book, also in the Torah the Jewish holy book)

And he said, Cursed be Canaan; (Son of Ham, who was one of Noah's first 3 sons Ham Shem and Japheth, Noah was the guy from the ark)a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren. (Caananites are those that live in the 'land of Canaan' which basically is Palastine, basically arabs and blacks, some were white however, not Jewish)

GENESIS 9:26: And he said, Blessed be the LORD God of Shem (One of the 3 first sons of Noah, Shem is the forefather of the Jewish people); and Canaan shall be his servant. (Canaanites were defeated in Old Testament times by David, and were servants of Isreal at that time, also defeated in 1942).

GENESIS 9:27: God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem (Isreal, the descendants of Shem, would reject Christ, while the descendants of Japheth would accept Him, which means that Blessing intended for Shem, i.e Isreal, would instead go to the descendants of Japheth, who was the forefather of the Gentiles, basically everyone in the world that isn't Jewish or Canaanites); and Canaan shall be his servant. (The descendants of Canaan continue to be the servants of Japheth in a sense even today, i.e Canaanites today still answer in part to the UN which is headed majority by European and North American nations, which a large part of the population are descendants of Japheth)

What this all means is that Ham's descendants were cursed to be the servants of his two brothers, Shem and Japheth, who are the forefathers of both the Jewish people and the Gentiles respectively. God cursed him after Noah drank too much wine and got naked, and Ham saw his father and told "everyone in the world" what had happened (literal sense at the same time, considering everyone was supposedly dead beside Noah and his family after the flood, the sin here was gossiping and the prophetical undertones were that Satan "accuses" man). When Ham told his brothers, both of them walked backward with a garment and covered their father, hence not embarrassing him. (the prophetical undertones here were that the Love of God covers sin while lack of love i.e. Satan condone it.)

What all this means today is that Isreal was blessed by God as a nation (sons of Shem) while the Palastinians (sons of Canaan, the curse being on those that "live" in the land of Canaan, not ALL Caananites) are cursed to be their servants. Isreal will never actually die as a nation ever again and any of those that go against the nation of Isreal will fail, according to the Old Testament in the Bible (also the Torah).

Now none of you may be Christians or Jews or whatever, or even believe in anything the bible says, but that's what it states in the first book of the bible early on. Both parties are majoritively versed on these notions, especially Isreal.

I don't think I need to get into this any further unless you ask me to, which I think majority vote will say no thinking I'm another Heavensent. Anyway, there you have it. For those that are Christians or Jews, things are explained.

Edit: The old testament of the Bible is also the same as the Torah, Genesis in the Bible is Bereishith in the Torah (in the beginning...) Jews are taught all of this when they are young, so their viewpoints are based on this also, the same way that the Muslims base their land claims on the Quran's teachings

[Mantra-Slider]

your thoughts are that the palestinians should be slaves of israel?

[Exalt]

your thoughts are that the palestinians should be slaves of israel?

no, my thoughts being that the palestinians will never be as powerful as Isreal, and their attempts at "attacking" Isreal will just screw them over, as its doing now... the arabs never will like the Jews and vice-versa and as much as the arabs "try" to destroy Isreal it will never work... can't exactly BLAME the palastinians for being pissed at the way things are for them based on something that happened far before they were ever born, but its the way it is, they will lose any type of conflict they wish to conjure up...

those verses and others in the bible (and torah) pretty much explain the age old hate between the arabs and the jews that will never die

anyway its just my opinion and another viewpoint in the subject matter, dont take offense to it if you don't have the same opinions

[Mantra-Slider]

I dunno man. didnt the "arabs" control the country for alot more time than the "jews" have? Maybe it will change again in the future? Its not like power is written in stone (or bible), it changes from time to time and it seems to me that it depends on other things than what was written in a book long time ago

or did I missunderstand what you mean?

[Zerzera]

I don't see Germany or Italy attacking Europe today. And for someone who sit in the continent that occupied, slaved and killed people all over the world, not to mention its own self, you should really shut the fuck up. I am atheist by the way, I have no lord, but trust me I got much more knowledge then you to speak about this matter. It's useless to respond for idiots like you anyway, hedonist ignorant shit.

Cya in SS. Peace.

Exactly, because we have chosen not to let those conflicts drag on for 60 years. Had we locked Germany in some wasteland without rights they'd still be willing to attack us. Sounds familiar, doesn't it? It's because that's exactly what happened 30 years earlier.
You were right that we have been wrong, but is that a justification to make the same mistakes?
It's for a big part about forgiving, your religion has no room for it because, weird enough, your religion entraps danger for your own kind.
That you are exclusively the people of God, and you are above others, fuck that fascist shit. Of course with that attitude you will always be in conflict with others. That you aren't religious hardly matters, you live with -and defend this ideology just the same.
What is there of you to trust? You never appeared to me as an honest person, and you are just fencing with knowledge, knowledge you don't display. Calling me a hedonist is plainly false, but it's a technique you are using against everyone who attacks your standpoints. You just think of some type of ideologist and call people that. I'm far from a hedonist, but please explain why I gave you that expression.

Love to hear back from you fascist.

the arabs never will like the Jews and vice-versa

Some nuance please! Some of my Arab friends are pro-Israel on this matter. It's clearly not about race.

[Exalt]

I dunno man. didnt the "arabs" control the country for alot more time than the "jews" have? Maybe it will change again in the future? Its not like power is written in stone (or bible), it changes from time to time and it seems to me that it depends on other things than what was written in a book long time ago

or did I missunderstand what you mean?

based on what the bible states, Isreal as a nation is reformed and wont be removed from power from now on until basically the battle of the "apocalypse" which is supposed to be outside of Jerusalem

in anycase, the old testament in the bible is the same as the torah basically, and Jews are taught from the torah when they are young, to them the nation and the land of Isreal belong to them by God, the same way that Muslims think they own the land based on the Quran... because of this nothing will be resolved between the two until the "end times" according to the bible when the whole book of Revelations takes place, other places it states this is the old testament book of Daniel etc, which is also in the torah

in any case, Iran and the other arab nations that hate isreal wont win and wont nuke isreal according to the bible and the torah

[RednaZ]

Just to prove again that the bible is an elaborate fairytale, I think every nation should give the arab nations a free card here. See how fast israel is whiped off the earth.

[R1pp3r]

"GENESIS 9:27: God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem"
You know the thread is going downhill when the bible quotes start to come. Made me laugh though. Could make a porn movie based on that quote.

[Singularity]

Since Zeus isn't here:
“”Difference of habit and language are nothing at all if our aims are identical and our hearts are open.” -Dumbledore, book 4, page 723

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"GENESIS 9:27: God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem"
You know the thread is going downhill when the bible quotes start to come. Made me laugh though. Could make a porn movie based on that quote.

I can picture that what a great role for Ron Jeremy.

[project dragon]

my soul weeps.

[Lucon]

Don't you guys hate it when people dissect each other's posts line by excruciating line?

It's why I never take part in real discussions.