American Elections '08

[Eeks]

Not comprehensive:

Republicans (claim to be conservative or right-wing)
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Rudolph Giuliani - Front-man for insane neoconservative agenda (want more wars of aggression and corruption scandals? look no further). Former mayor of nyc. "Hero" of 9/11 (simply because he was there.) The media laps up his toe-lint like there's no tomorrow. Could very well be the next Hitler if wasn't such an incompetent stooge (sound familiar?).

Mitt Romney - A corporate billboard who also happens to be Mormon. Claimed to pull over his car and 'weep' when he had found out that his church allowed blacks in a few decades ago. ahahaha. The media eats his dung though sometimes fixates on his Mormonism as a reason why he can't be president.

Mike Huckabee - Hates evolution, faggots, and probably you. Backed by radical fundamentalist christians (aka evangelicals.) Not sure but his support seems more grassroots than the previous two. More ignored by the media, but lately has featured more prominently. Will do everything in his power to bring about the apocalypse if he wins anything.

Ron Paul - Anti-establishment libertarian that is universally ignored and treated condescendingly by the media. Monetarily ahead of or on-par with the others, though that doesn't mean anything. Support is mostly grassroots, comes from many different kinds of people. Will be assassinated if he wins anything.

Democrats (claim to be liberal or left-wing)
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Hillary Clinton - Front-woman for insane neoconservative agenda (want more wars of aggression and corruption scandals? look no further). Former (err..current) wife of Bill Clinton. "Heroine/Villainess" of the 90's (simply because she was there.) The media laps up her toe-lint like there's no tomorrow. People who call themselves "conservatives" universally hate her for some unspecified reason. Has support from many females and college students probably.

Barack Obama - Token black guy who actually seems to be doing OK. Slightly less offensive than Hillary Clinton, still your typical, bland, pandering politician. Has support from many college students probably.

John Edwards - Has made many interesting statements criticizing the media establishment. Bland, pandering politician. More strongly Christian than the previous two I think.

Dennis Kuicinich - Anti-establishment, ignored and ridiculed by the media. Doing poorly in the polls and monetarily. Frequently calls for impeachment of Cheney and Bush. Has a hot wife. Democrats secretly wish they could vote for him, but are too whipped by the media/afraid of electing someone that all americans won't vote for. (self-limiting groupthink)

Wouldn't it be amazing if all your voters could vote for any of those candidates above? I suspect the results would turn out to be a hellofa lot different.

[PaulOakenfold]

Wouldn't it be amazing if all your voters could vote for any of those candidates above? I suspect the results would turn out to be a hellofa lot different.

Amazingly chaotic.

[H.M.S. Stargazer]

Looking at your casualty numbers from WW2, it just tells me you're bad at war. If you were like the US you would have just used a nuke to save time and lives.

Izor, you fucktard, Think about what a nuke would do? It would 1) Kill more allies then enemies. 2) Create a barren wasteland of France that would kill even MORE allies.

Save lives my ass. Now get your head out of yours.

This thread has gotten a little off topic, But then again, it seems to have turned into an USA versus WORLD thread.

[inaphyt]

America the land of freedom... please

[PaulOakenfold]

America the land of freedom... please

inaphyt a unique and beautiful snowflake... please

[GuruMeditation]

Dang, the only reference to any of the candidates on this page is a freaking quote from Louis.

Who will I be voting for over here? No one, because I'm not American. I came over here, I work over here, but I am not American and do not salute the flag. Therefore I should not have the right to vote into power the people who control those who call this country home.

For those who aren't American trying to tell those here who they should or shouldn't be voting for you have no right to try and dictate what the policy of this country should be, and you'll be talking to a brick wall because ultimately people will be voting for their own best interests not what benefits someone on the other side of the world. Foreign policy is only 5 to 10% of the politics equation in almost all countries. If America were leaders of the free world it'd be a different matter, but as they've already said before they're only part of the puzzle. Not representative of the whole.

Spend more time working on making your own countries better. This one is too broken to be worth the effort.

[Cops]

Dang, the only reference to any of the candidates on this page is a freaking quote from Louis.

You've got to give me some credit, it was hard to say anything about the candidates while trying to make Izor understand that people do not have to be American to have an opinion on foreign elections, especially Canadians, consider we're their fucking neighbors. Taking an interest in foreign politics should not be viewed as a 'bad thing'. I'm not a big fan of anyone on the Republican side, Ron Paul is the most sincere politician I have seen yet, that does not mean he deserves to be president or that he would be a good one. I'm still hoping for an Obama victory, hill-dog scares me.

Edwards is swine who rides the religious card, claims he is not like most politicans but he is exactly like most politicians.

Guiliani has reportedly used cop cars as taxis for his girlfriend. He's like the hybrid of a liberal and conservative, people question his integrity running Republican which conflicts his previous political views. He's making a dash for the white house on nothing but 9/11. He does speak to a lot of economical conservatives that have more left wing social views. I just think the guys a cunt bag, otherwise I might consider voting for him.

McCain is your average candidate, he was a POW who has a lot of experience in politics but he's got little definable qualities that actually make him stand out. McCain would win this if he had a personality, it's not like he speaks to the people. I enjoy watching him on TV and seeing his views on different topics but he clearly had a big push at the start of his campaign and now it's diminishing.

Ron Paul is the most out-spoken politican who promises change and prosperity and power shifting from federal level more to state level. I fear his reclusiveness, and a lack of interest in things such as the UNEF or any interest in the UN. I also thing his views on free markets is bold and pretentious. He is the most likable guy but he is also the most radical, would I put any stalk on how his presidency would pan out? Hell no.

Obama seems to want to make reasonable changes that seek to clear out a lot of bureaucracy surrounding politics. Anyone joining his campaign cannot have worked for a lobbyist two years prior or after being in his administration. Obama does not take money from lobbyists and relies heavily on the a wide base of supporters. He seems like one of the most intelligent and capable politicians running for president.

Hill-Dog takes lobbyist money but says she wont allow this to affect her judgment, they paid for your campaign of course you're going to help them out. She seems to be riding coat-tails and playing off the fact that she's a women, her issues and plans for America or less than mediocre, she hasn't promised anything worth mentioning yet she still might win the democratic seat which is beyond me.

[Kolar]

For those who aren't American trying to tell those here who they should or shouldn't be voting for you have no right to try and dictate what the policy of this country should be, and you'll be talking to a brick wall because ultimately people will be voting for their own best interests not what benefits someone on the other side of the world. Foreign policy is only 5 to 10% of the politics equation in almost all countries. If America were leaders of the free world it'd be a different matter, but as they've already said before they're only part of the puzzle. Not representative of the whole.

I think we have to acknowledge that this board is not closed off to only Americans. Just because I live outside of the United States and I'm not an American citizen doesn't mean I can't have or express an opinion concerning it. Being a super power and the "leader" of the West, much of the policies and laws coming from the US effects many of us, American, Canadian, European and the rest of the world. I don't consider myself or anyone here to be dictating or directing people to vote [or not to vote] for any candidate, I believe all political opinions and discussion are valid as long as they at a fundamental level show respect in kind.

[D1st0rt]

The more I read about Ron Paul, the more excited I get. I don't agree 100% with him on things, but I see that as my own inconsistency across different policies.

[Cops]

The more I read about Ron Paul, the more scared I get.

Closing off communication and not being part of an international community will not make things better.

[Jerome Scuggs]

The more I read about Ron Paul, the more scared I get.

Closing off communication and not being part of an international community will not make things better.

Do you seriously think it's black or white? Like, a country must either have military bases in every single country and invade someone whenever they feel threatened - or, they erect giant iron walls and noone ever hears from them... again?

Because what would you consider Canada? Your country is obviously involved in international affairs, but it only really engages in action when defending itself legitimately. Paul's policies would, ironically, shape up to be very Canadian. How "closed off".

[Chao.]

Oh goody, Fox News is now completely ignoring RP and trying to exclude him from debates while still inviting the likes of Thompson. I can't wait to hear their reasoning.

[H.M.S. Stargazer]

Ron paul censored you say? Whats next? Clinton doing the chicken dance?

[Cops]

Do you seriously think it's black or white? Like, a country must either have military bases in every single country and invade someone whenever they feel threatened - or, they erect giant iron walls and noone ever hears from them... again?

Obviously not. Closing your doors to talking and engaging with countries regardless if they're fried or foes can be legitimately detrimental. Ron Paul wants to remove his country from the UN because 'it can force them to go to war', which is complete bullshit since America can just veto stuff. The UN would turn to shit if America pulled out, who would be on the security council? Anything good that comes of the UN would be lost. Any lines of communication countries were building to be more diplomatic would be lost.

Because what would you consider Canada? Your country is obviously involved in international affairs, but it only really engages in action when defending itself legitimately. Paul's policies would, ironically, shape up to be very Canadian. How "closed off".

- Crisis in Yemen, the HMCS Toronto was the first NATO ship to respond

- Korean War, we helped Sol from being taken over. Canada has a rich military history, we gained respect for a strong commitment and ability to do things other militaries could not.

- Canadian Troops in Afghanistan, we'll probably be taking over the campaign this year

These three actions were not done to defend ourselves, Canada is involved in MANY humanitarian missions, we might not be the biggest army or the best but are commitment to people is evident, and all it takes to realize this is a history book. Canada's military diminished over the past twenty years but we've started to shape it up a bit, we're getting bigger, and better. Although our military is used for missions that involve saving lives, not taking over foreign soil. People hardly see what we actually do because unless we invade a country or go to war we're hardly seen as a military presence. There's Canadians dying in the middle east just like Americans, to deny this and say that Canada only asserts itself to things that protect itself is a slap in the face to all my countrymen who are dying in the middle east alongside their American brothers.

[HeavenSent]

"The United Nations is the greatest fraud in all History. Its purpose is to destroy the United States."
John E. Rankin, U.S. Congressman
"The Trilateral Commission is internation and is intended to be the vehicle for multinational consolidation of the commercial and banking interests by seizing control of the political government of the United States. The Trilateral Commission represents a skillful, coordinated effort to seize control and consolidate the four centers of power - political, monetary, intellectual and ecclesiastical."
Sen. Barry Goldwater 1979 -With No Apologies