Forum Mafia - Shawshank Redemption - Salvation lies within

[Jessup]

field Can you please reveal the full investigation.. you like baited everyone saying you have voths full role and can prove he is town and then disappeared. You working on a good story or just waiting for more of nothing? I don't get the delay?

[Voth]

Halp is completely full of shit. At first, I really questioned why the scum team would make up this fake bullshit with Halp on me of all people. Then I realized that there is no middle ground here. I pushed for Halp to be lynched last Day phase and switched to Vehicle because no one except one other person was in on Halp. And Vehicle did scum slip, even though he flipped town. Anyone who has a town role PM should have felt the same way about it.

Anyway, this is nothing more than Halp and his scum team taking the obvious route and trying to take me out. I'm interested as to how they plan to explain themselves if they succeed in lynching me - I flip town because I'm town. Either way, I'd obviously rather live and take out a total and complete scumbag today.

I know I'll just be met with whining and bullshit in response, but Halp has been a complete lurker and useless all game. The only game I can remember that he actually participated fully in is one where he was third party cult and put on a clinic of how to win like that. Too bad we don't have a Halp that gives a shit anymore. It's boring to play versus lurking scum Halp. I've been trying to get him lynched for calendar days on end to no avail. If you fuck it up now, it's not my fault.

vote Halp

[WillBy]

Do you think all the lurkers are town? We can double lynch- we kill Halp and we kill, for instance, m_leo.

I think field and Voth have defended themselves just fine. Do you not believe fields claim? Why do you believe Halps claim over fields? Just saying "look at their voting records" isnt really enough here. Because if we look at voting records, you cant just look at those three...

[Voth]

Voth Hey you got some kinda defense to make for why you have allegedly pulled a dirty investigate??

vote voth

I only got this far in reading the new posts before I had to chime in. Even Halps laughable bullshit didn't make me have to stop reading to post.

Fuck off. You have like three posts in the entire thread and it's brutal that you even still exist in the game. You're either scum or just too busy IRL to have a clue. Either way, fuck off.

[Jessup]

You mentioning wicket makes me think you are misunderstanding me. I think I wasnt super clear.

I'm saying that you soft claimed innocent, clearing results on Voth N1, and then a day later you are hard claiming the same results. This was not a contrived defense of Voth in retaliation for a guilty investigation- this is Halp either being paranoid (unlikely) or lying. Either way, this phase should not be a question of Voth, field, or Halp. It should be Halp or not Halp. And if not Halp, then who? Like I said a few pages ago, I think we will have to lynch some lurkers here. But I'm good starting with Halp, at least until we get a better claim.

TOTALLY DISAGREE. We no doubt have scum in this group of three in either Voth, Field or Halp and ANY of these 3 dying will produce good results for town and make us see some REAL info. Lurkers we learn ZIPPO and again are wildly guessing. Unsure why you are shooting into thin air willby. The most logical safe bet is to believe halp until I see exactly how field and voth defend themselves. Even then those two(Voth and Field) are late to the game always covering for each other conveniently coming out of the woodwork when either is pressured and have been for 2 phases now. Seems fishy as all to me lol.

[Kassius]

Oh they've both got cat Avatars, Field & Exalt rather.

[Kassius]

Just waiting for Scarlet to log on and agree with Voth and Field atm.

[WillBy]

Scum field wouldn't defend scum voth after a guilty investigation.

When did I become wicket666?

You mentioning wicket makes me think you are misunderstanding me. I think I wasnt super clear.

I'm saying that you soft claimed innocent, clearing results on Voth N1, and then a day later you are hard claiming the same results. This was not a contrived defense of Voth in retaliation for a guilty investigation- this is Halp either being paranoid (unlikely) or lying. Either way, this phase should not be a question of Voth, field, or Halp. It should be Halp or not Halp. And if not Halp, then who? Like I said a few pages ago, I think we will have to lynch some lurkers here. But I'm good starting with Halp, at least until we get a better claim.

[field]

Librarians usually have a power to make players be quiet / mute players and force a few direct pms from what I dug up on the net..

Either way today is Voth, Field or Halp that has to go. I support Halp right now because of scummy both voth and fields voting records are.

In every game, most townies often end up voting for town. That's not because they're scum, that's because they are uninformed.

It's the scum who are careful with their votes.

And if you think halp stayed off Vehicle because he's anything but scum, you haven't paid enough attention.

[field]

This seems a little bit too premeditated to be a sudden to be a scum defense of Voth. Nice plays field. Very nice...

Everyone else, field soft-claimed these results last phase.

Scum field wouldn't defend scum voth after a guilty investigation.

When did I become wicket666?

[Jessup]

Librarians usually have a power to make players be quiet / mute players and force a few direct pms from what I dug up on the net..

Either way today is Voth, Field or Halp that has to go. I support Halp right now because of scummy both voth and fields voting records are.

[field]

Fair enough.

If you look back at the claimed list, are there any that stick out to you, besides Halp?

Kassius probably has a variation of schizophrenic, a town role.

Your role is confirmed, but I can't think of any utility for it as a scum role. I think you're town.

Jessup - I believe the doctor roleclaim, though don't care if Jessup is lynched or killed.

Exalt - I am leaning towards Exalt being town and his role can be confirmed soon enough.

Zeebu - probably town, for same reason as you.

Scarlet - while he didn't claim, his play (especially D1) was town enough for me not to care about this phase.

I think we need to look at:
Halp - lied about his claim
M_leo - still read him as scum from previous phases, nothing has changed AFAIK
Beast - completely useless and reminds me of a previous game where "forwards" played largely the same way and won as scum. I think he is scum.
Party_falcon - process of elimination at this point

[WillBy]

Voth I haven't commented on your roleclaim and result on me because I've been sleeping. I believe you are the Librarian. Did you read the post I tagged you in? If not, go back and read. The post was prior to your roleclaim.

On D1 I had a scum read on you despite a very town play, because it is not unlike you to pull that kind of play as scum. While I did not contribute the rest of D1, I made sure to read it and analyze it before submitting a night action. At beginning of D2, my view of you changed. Note the timeline I'm giving you and read my previous post.

This seems a little bit too premeditated to be a sudden to be a scum defense of Voth. Nice plays field. Very nice...

Everyone else, field soft-claimed these results last phase.

[WillBy]

I thought it was funny that he checked me, too. I was hoping he'd be scum. After he saved Jessup from being lynched, I thought to myself "that is the type of play a scum voth would make." I was wrong.

PS I largely voted Vehicle after his role claim because of "town" -- it did not match my own role and Voth's, so I legit thought it was a slip. Especially that he role claimed out of the blue, and provided nothing useful in his claim. There's no way I'd vote anyone else after that, especially when my read on Vehicle has been that he's scum.

My abilities are x-shot. Let's wait until a few more people chime in before I share my N2 result.

Fair enough.

If you look back at the claimed list, are there any that stick out to you, besides Halp?

[field]

It's cute AF that you guys would both be checking out/investigating each other N1. What did you do last night? Are your abilities x-shot like voths are(I think?)? When you chose to investigate Voth, were you thinking/hoping he was town or scum?

I thought it was funny that he checked me, too. I was hoping he'd be scum. After he saved Jessup from being lynched, I thought to myself "that is the type of play a scum voth would make." I was wrong.

PS I largely voted Vehicle after his role claim because of "town" -- it did not match my own role and Voth's, so I legit thought it was a slip. Especially that he role claimed out of the blue, and provided nothing useful in his claim. There's no way I'd vote anyone else after that, especially when my read on Vehicle has been that he's scum.

My abilities are x-shot. Let's wait until a few more people chime in before I share my N2 result.