Mafia: What a time to be alive!

[Zeebu]

ive read through ixt's iso and i dont think he is scum. theres an outside chance he could be a 3rd party i guess, but he mostly comes off as town. a blathering and defensive idiot, but town.

[Voth]

Let's hear a role claim then. Cause currently all the evidence points towards guilty

I'm not saying you're wrong, and the_paul might be mafia, but can you post a synopsis of this evidence? Is there something you know that the rest of us do not?

[Voth]

got some time to go through the last few pages now fellas, give me a few minutes and i'll post a thorough response. just have to take some time to read what looks to be some lengthy posts.

[ixt]

and this is a direct call out to those failing to post. i mean sure the mod will eventually mod kill u if u dont care, but if not for sure will get my vote slapped on u regardless of your alignment. chances are there is mafia embedded among those actively speaking and giving their thoughts, but also in those "lurkers". as i stated in the previous game it isnt fair to those who are participating to be very limited in the posts and expect to survive long. so, hope those of u out there will take the time to weigh in before ending in the same boat as soilderz.

[ixt]

now this is a different set of events. from my amateur read exalt and thepaul had a mutual friendly discussion among themselves, i mean sure doubting each other but not directly making bold accusations. but contrary, willby is probably making the boldest move of the phase so far. how will the others read this move? potential side with exalt? or just a willby vs thepaul matter? first move this day worth debating

[WillBy]

An encouraging amount of evidence and effort went into this post

Let's hear a role claim then. Cause currently all the evidence points towards guilty

[the_paul]

Yeah in light of recent discussion I'm going to go ahead and reiterate my vote on the Paul and re-encourage you all to join me. As one of the most experienced players here in terms of hosting and playing, I seriously doubt I'm wrong here.

An encouraging amount of evidence and effort went into this post

[WillBy]

Yeah in light of recent discussion I'm going to go ahead and reiterate my vote on the Paul and re-encourage you all to join me. As one of the most experienced players here in terms of hosting and playing, I seriously doubt I'm wrong here.

[ixt]

i state this very clearly DIRECTLY TO THE GOOD COP (HOPING THERE ISNT PARANOID COP):if you survive to the second night, u would logically have two results...assuming u didnt check soilderz day 1. u need to find someone u can trust and link up, otherwise if u die and the rest of town receives no info...well that just leaves us in an awkward position.

[the_paul]

So to Paul and exalt regardless if I believe either of u or not should I just shut up or post my thoughts? Cuz seems like I'm just suspected mafia regardless

In general, it?s usually the mafia who benefit from lurking and not participating. I already don?t trust you, so it doesn?t matter to me, but more conversation isn?t a bad thing, unless you want more pages of Exalt and me yelling at each other

[the_paul]

I have answered your question Exalt, on day one. To me it is still basic math, especially in a game of 13. You can look at just numbers, and that?s fine, but I disagree with what you said.

In a game of 13 there are probably 4/5 anti town roles. That leaves 8/9 town possible town roles. Who knows exactly how Fis set this up, but there?s usually a vigi, a doctor, usually more than 1 cop (since one is usually paranoid or naive), and possibly a role blocker or bus driver, something more along those lines. So that?s 5 town power roles as my best guess, give or take 1. Given these numbers, and given many examples of past games to solidify my view, lynching day 1 is very risky unless somebody does something completely boneheaded. With ~4 anti town roles and ~5 town power roles, there is a better chance of lynching a town power role or forcing a day 1 role claim than there is of landing on anyone anti town.

Its the same answer I gave on day 1, maybe in a little more detail, but still the same. I?ve been upfront and consistent about it.

PS. Those numbers I used were just based off of a standard set up. Since you seem to believe ixt?s claim of being an ?x shot bulletproof? townie, you can change those numbers to ~4 mafia and ~6 townie power roles as a safe assumption for day 1.

[midoent]

LMAO IM LOLING AT HOW BAD THESE LAST TWO POSTS ARE. SAID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING "we are all terrible at mafia while he is a god" WHOS HE???!! god mido u look amazingly like scum right now buddy. better freshen dat gunk up.

Talking about voth. And chill dude

[midoent]

Wanted to add that 10 out of 13 voted for the wagons. Seems like a lot for first round. Thoughts?

[ixt]

LMAO IM LOLING AT HOW BAD THESE LAST TWO POSTS ARE. SAID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING "we are all terrible at mafia while he is a god" WHOS HE???!! god mido u look amazingly like scum right now buddy. better freshen dat gunk up.

[midoent]

The way those wagons formed. Mathematically either both are innocent, one is guilty or both guilty.

If both are innocent it is highly likely that mafia pushed for one of them.

If both are guilty then this might have been carefully orchestrated vote tie.

If one is guilty the mafia would target the other one.