Forum Mafia - Shawshank Redemption - Salvation lies within

[Exalt]

Are you dense? lol comeon exalt. stop strengthening my reason to suspect you as scum please Mr governor

Btw Jessup, I checked you last night. Guess what?

[Jessup]

So let's get this right exalt. You rather protect Voth who has trained on every townie lynched than believe a investigative role that comes back forcing that investigator to vote on voth after they did the investigating? Now as town governor you plan on stopping this lynch too? lol .. You sound like the damn scum WARDEN right now lol..:thumbsdown::shout::thumbsdown:

[Jessup]

Btw Jessup, I checked you last night. Guess what?

what? you can check me out? please share Mr Governor

[Exalt]

So let's get this right exalt. You rather protect Voth who has trained on every townie lynched than believe a investigative role that comes back forcing that investigator to vote on voth after they did the investigating? Now as town governor you plan on stopping this lynch too? lol .. You sound like the damn scum WARDEN right now lol..:thumbsdown::shout::thumbsdown:

What investigative role? Halp didn't claim one. He didnt claim anything. He just said he 'checked voth last night, guess what?' Yeah, great, that's meaningless. That's not a role. That's not real info. There's no reason whatsoever for a townie to not claim there with full results, not this bullshit Halp just pulled. That's scummy as fuck. It's a scum move to claim some kind of 'result'(guess what isnt one either) while refusing to claim a role of any kind to avoid a counterclaim. Common sense Jessup. Why would Halp refuse to do that? Has he done anything pro-town at any other part of this game? Also, once he posted that, all of a sudden lurkers like PF show up to vote with him. I'm calling bullshit.

[Exalt]

what? you can check me out? please share Mr Governor

I checked everyone last night, guess what?

[Jessup]

Halp filled in the blank though .. therefore a non full claim is good enough.. plus the threat of being mod killed makes every1 so damn tepod this game. I was almost modkilled for a one word name. Kassius was dancing around like a ballerina when claiming wildcard and trying to explain the actions results they got. You acting like its some big deal is silly to me and already threatening town to cause a mislynch? rofl.. makes no sense.

[Kassius]

Halp filled in the blank though .. therefore a non full claim is good enough.. plus the threat of being mod killed makes every1 so damn tepod this game. I was almost modkilled for a one word name. Kassius was dancing around like a ballerina when claiming wildcard and trying to explain the actions results they got. You acting like its some big deal is silly to me and already threatening town to cause a mislynch? rofl.. makes no sense.

Hah, if you saw the state of me, that analogy would be the last thing to come to mind. I'm basically Tormund Giantsbane, but with a bigger beard.

[Zeebu]

jessup could be on to something with that warden accusation

[WillBy]

Guess what? I've got a vote this phase and so does everyone else, to my knowledge.

So I've kind of forgotten what people have claimed, I'm hoping to do a brief recap, someone please correct me if I've got this wrong:

WillBy- prison gambler
Zeebu- Note passer
voth- various powers, including an investigation
jessup- doctor
Kassius- wildcard
exalt- pseudo-governor
Halp- investigative role

Information we have claimed that can be verified:
Voth claims an innocent investigation on field
Halp claims a guilty investigation on Voth

Missing claims:
Scarlet
Field
A bunch of lurkers

Does that about sum it up?

[field]

Halp is lying about his investigation.

Voth is 100% town.

[field]

Not 99%, 100%.

And I've caught halp in a lie.

[WillBy]

I think Jessup has jumped the gun with why there were no deaths last night, there are more reasons out there.

• The killer was roleblocked.
• The killer was jailed.
• The victim was jailed.
• The victim was bussed with Jessup (assuming we don't have one at this point though now, to be fair, but can't rule it out)
• Jessup protected herself.

Well, here's some information from last night, and I'm going to be as completely clear as I can and separate the information from my analysis, due to previous criticism for trying to fish a little by providing murky info.

Information : I successfully jailed Scarlet last night.

Why didn't I just get success/fail? I checked with Kthx before posting this as I was confused as you are all probably now, as the role in the link I was given says I just get success/fail if appropriate. He said, and I have to paraphrase this to not break rules, that in a prison, people talk and it's unlikely people won't see what you're doing. So he's amended the roles slightly. To me at least, it makes sense that I know what I'm doing, I'm 'crazy', but not exactly schizophrenic (a proper role), which would potentially not have knowledge of the other personalities' actions, thus me not knowing what I did or not.

My analysis:

I think that my role has been altered a tad from vanilla to make it more powerful, town must be missing an obvious power role, and my role is seen as a way to mix things up.

Other roles may have been tweaked from vanilla, so let's not make assumptions, like normally doctors can't protect themselves. Well, all bets are off the table now, and I'm inclined to believe Jessup's claim and action from last night.

Although Town were on the back foot, there are still no obvious claimed power roles that Town has other than Jessup. I think Scum going for Jessup would be a bad move, because of the Jailer. Unless Scum have the jailer, which initially for flavour would seem feasible, however the balance of Scum having a jailer and town being given a wildcard in lieu of another role doesn't really make balance sense to me. I'm leaning towards the Jailer been town for this reason. This would make targeting Jessup very risky at best, given how I jailed her N1, and we have another Jailer out there who I think is town, with no obvious targets to protect.

If I were on the scum team, I wouldn't have touched Jessup with a barge pole last night, with the potential of a self-protect, at least 1 jailer, a cop, and potentially watchers/voyeurs with still not many people to look at other than Jessup. All they could have done in my view, is try and go completely off the path and kill a townie that would give as least information to people as possible last night, i.e. if we went back through the victim's posts it wouldn't incriminate scum.

So with these thoughts in mind, I believe that scum targeted someone other than Jessup. So last night we had:

• Jessup protected herself
• Kassius jailed Scarlet
• Someone could have jailed someone (unless they didn't submit their night action), and this could be scum on town, town on scum, or town on town. I know that someone could have jailed someone, because I copied the role last night, and I can't copy the roles of dead people as far as I'm aware, and no jailer has turned up dead yet.

Unless we learn who the real jailer jailed last night, I'll have to vote with my second strongest scum lean of yesterday after Willby, which was Scarlet due to last night's events. I.e. I believe I may have prevented the kill directly by jailing Scarlet. I believe Scarlet was chosen to make the kill based on the level of suspicion levelled against him by the end of D2, so if he was caught, it would limit damage to their team. This is pending further information from others from last night and is my thoughts at the time of this post.

Not sure how our other Jailer can come out with some further info without exposing themself, i.e. if they jailed Voth or Field, which to me would be equally valid lynch targets at this stage. Voth even more so if we are to believe Halp's information.

Vote Scarlet

You are missing one huge potential reason that there wasnt a night kill. I dont like to get too meta with it, but it is possible that the mafia never submitted a night kill. I'm quite comfortable lynching a lurker here- or exercising our God-given right, as Americans, to double lynch.

[field]

Analyzing the night kill is useless this day. So many possibilities, some mentioned and others unmentioned.

[WillBy]

Not 99%, 100%.

And I've caught halp in a lie.

I'm interested. Tell me more.

As a show of good faith,

Vote Halp

I'm not forgetting the fair probability that this is a gambit. But I like seeing people lie then turning the lie inside out.

[field]

In case I wasn't clear, I've had Voth's full role and alignment in my inbox since end of N1 (one of my actions), so unless halp wants to explain how he got a contradictory investigative result to mine, I'm gunna go with he's scum.