Forum Mafia - Shawshank Redemption - Salvation lies within

[scarlet]

I'm not saying you're lying, I'm saying you're being hypocritical.

So you're saying he's town?

[WillBy]

This whole thing zeebu thing sort of makes me uncomfortable like it's a really easy fake play to think up on a scum chat. I need a lot more than that to quell the feeling of dread I get from this post. I don't read Willby as scum but I can't think of a worse way to drop that and run with essentially no elaboration.

Voth: I am suspicious about you randomly sharing some information concerning someone who's being considered for lynch. This could be an easy scum cover

Also Voth: I 1-shot investigated field, hes innocent.

I'm not saying you're lying, I'm saying you're being hypocritical.

[Voth]

Also Voth zzzzzzzzzzz I read you say u had your 1 shot cop and got innocent on field ya ya ya , read u had some worthless other shot u dunno how to use and u were basically gonna be a VT. This is why I think it is good to make field reveal today and at same time confirm if u are legit urself.. your post was easily unverifiable scum fake claim/reveal move that leaves you unconfirmed the rest of the game.. zzzzzzzzz u bore me and need to be confirmed sooner than later for town to gain ur trust

Read my words: if you lynch field and he flips town, that does not mean I am not scum. Not even a little bit. Have you ever heard of a fake claim? Have you ever strategized on a scum chat to get someone lynched or gain town credibility when playing as scum?

So do your other option. Lynch me. The guy who moved off of you with minutes remaining to save you after you claimed Doctor, when all I really want is a Jessup-free game. Sounds super scummy to
me. It pained me to not let you die. If you can't see that it's a pure town move, then please fuck off. I'd gladly sacrifice myself for the town doctor 1 for 1 if I was scum any day. It's one of towns most important roles. If I could have got you AND another townie all on D1? Home run. Lynch me and I'll die knowing I set my team up for victory. But you can't see how
obvious this all is because you're either an utter imbecile or scum - I'll go with the former.

Your ability to play this game is as thin as a puddle on the local basketball court. You are playing a word search while everyone else plays checkers. Get a clue or just fuck off already.

[Zeebu]

yeah willy, i saw them... i didnt acknowledge on purpose since it isnt beneficial to do so unless the heat is on me... and right now, its not too bad. oh well. cats out of the bag now.

the role i have s good neighbor. at night i can ask kthx to send a pm to someone and he confirms that i am a townie. apparently that means vanilla prisoner or something in the pm, who knows. all i got was that it happened. this is a 2 shot, so i have 1 remaining

[Jessup]

cool ok.. zeebu shud not be voted on then this phase. this game turning out to have a lot of odd stuff happening

[scarlet]

You can't say there are 3 scum (and a survivor? what?) left while also refusing to name a 3rd player, but TRing 90% of all the possibilities as well.

I can if it gets you (and the rest of the town) to lynch between two players I think are likely scum instead of chasing after willby all phase for a reason you literally refuse to describe.
Again, 'less likely to be scum than mleo/halp' isn't really a TR, but I guess we can get to that or not N2

I had it chalked up to him finally getting comfortable with our meta

The place I came from (in terms of mafia) was attached to a very PC parentboard

Voth If willby dies and flips green, then it implies that zeebu is town. People are starting to break out the PoE and the only cost to revealing it is that it says that zeebu isn't a PR, which I don't know if I agree is the right call to make, but eh.

[WillBy]

ummm a note? literally addressed to you in action reveal? Prisoner? Zeebu did a short response today saying "I do" to exalt asking if any1 had issue vs him having zebu on a vote train.. Is zeebu being blackmailed you think? What are your thoughts on all this willby?

Yes a note. I mean it didnt say "willby, I'm a prisoner" so I wouldnt say it was addressed to me. I got that as a night result, I wasnt expecting anything like that. I do not think zeebu is being blackmailed, zeebu often posts as little as needed, and posting that he objects to being lynched just makes sense. I only mention this now because his name got brought back up. I havent seen "communication" roles like this before, but I would imagine it is a town role. I gave zeebu a chance to respond to it, but I haven't gotten anything which further makes me think that hes a townie, he had a town read on me, so he passed me a note. What's on the note is either unimportant or flavor or both, so I dont want to discuss it much further. But the note itself is interesting.

[Voth]

And just to get another thought in black and white before I go to bed (worked overnight), I know it is statistically highly unlikely but all scenarios must be entertained right now:

Field (unless I missed it) has posted a few times since I came out with my innocent result on him but has failed to directly address that result or me directly. Seems pretty strange for someone who was at the time one of two people Exalt was basically holding up as the only potential lynchee. If someone went to bat for me with hard evidence and I was town I would typically make some sort of case for myself in that situation which fits in with that persons information. Radio silence on it is just bizarre and I don't know if it was just oversight or something more to it. Again, I read field as possible scum D1 due to his over the top inactivity but have relaxed on that substantially, even before my innocent result on him. But I want this all in black and white on the chance I don't make it through N2.

[Jessup]

Also Voth zzzzzzzzzzz I read you say u had your 1 shot cop and got innocent on field ya ya ya , read u had some worthless other shot u dunno how to use and u were basically gonna be a VT. This is why I think it is good to make field reveal today and at same time confirm if u are legit urself.. your post was easily unverifiable scum fake claim/reveal move that leaves you unconfirmed the rest of the game.. zzzzzzzzz u bore me and need to be confirmed sooner than later for town to gain ur trust

[Voth]

Good morning everyone. Time for the other big(?) piece of info from last night. I got a note from zeebu last night that states that he is a prisoner. I've tried to get him to respond after both of his posts so far today:


Also PartyFalcon this is what my role is, I've never changed how I described it. It shares a name with a role on MU forums, which I think was the source of jessups confusion. I will try to post a better recap...

This whole thing zeebu thing sort of makes me uncomfortable like it's a really easy fake play to think up on a scum chat. I need a lot more than that to quell the feeling of dread I get from this post. I don't read Willby as scum but I can't think of a worse way to drop that and run with essentially no elaboration.

[WillBy]

Also, if I'm being honest, Scarlet seems quite a bit more confrontational than last game. More swearing, more attacking. Maybe just getting more comfortable. Maybe nothing. But worth noting.

I had it chalked up to him finally getting comfortable with our meta

[Jessup]

Good morning everyone. Time for the other big(?) piece of info from last night. I got a note from zeebu last night that states that he is a prisoner. I've tried to get him to respond after both of his posts so far today:


Also PartyFalcon this is what my role is, I've never changed how I described it. It shares a name with a role on MU forums, which I think was the source of jessups confusion. I will try to post a better recap...

ummm a note? literally addressed to you in action reveal? Prisoner? Zeebu did a short response today saying "I do" to exalt asking if any1 had issue vs him having zebu on a vote train.. Is zeebu being blackmailed you think? What are your thoughts on all this willby?

[Voth]

Pretty sure this is just you. You've been less active, and especially less directly engaged with me, all through D2. Pretty sure I've also recently directly addressed zeebu less times than I directly addressed you D1.
Do some retarded shit like force town to lynch between an innocent and someone you've refused to explain your read on for the entire day if you're that starved for attention.

Trust me, I'm not complaining about not being the target of your incessant questioning. However, you clearly know the game here and if it wouldn't make your hair stand up if roles were reversed, I would be surprised. This is still just D2 in a mafia game, and while I agree mostly with a lot you're saying this phase, you know that trust doesn't exist at this point and every little difference can matter.

[Exalt]

Pretty sure this is just you. You've been less active, and especially less directly engaged with me, all through D2. Pretty sure I've also recently directly addressed zeebu less times than I directly addressed you D1.
Do some retarded shit like force town to lynch between an innocent and someone you've refused to explain your read on for the entire day if you're that starved for attention.

Or I have a role that is essentially a 'get out of jail free' card, so I've been leveraging it as much as possible to get interactions and hard stances from people, making the later game easier to solve. It's not my fault that you didn't catch on until you walked yourself into a corner.

[Exalt]

Great. If you're town, use your power play to lynch Halp, or MLeo, and then we can move on.

I have been filing away how many times Scarlet has directly addressed me recently, and it isn't many. And that makes me nervous. He talks somewhat about me and what I have done or said, but he hasn't really been the annoying person knocking at your door that won't go away like he normally is. Strange. I can't really say what it means yet but I have been noticing it and filing that away for later use.

Also, if I'm being honest, Scarlet seems quite a bit more confrontational than last game. More swearing, more attacking. Maybe just getting more comfortable. Maybe nothing. But worth noting.

I don't read him as scum or town now. Neutral. But I don't like that feeling right now.

That's the plan. Mleo or Halp should be the lynch today. If they flip red, the first domino falls and the rest should go with it. Solve from there.

If they flip green, Scarlet might be the best lynch moving forward IMO. Maybe that ends up not being the case, but IMO they took enough hard stances to where they've got very little outs now. Their reads just don't make sense as it stands. You can't say there are 3 scum (and a survivor? what?) left while also refusing to name a 3rd player, but TRing 90% of all the possibilities as well.

It may be worth it for someone to check Scarlet tonight if possible regardless of what happens. Otherwise, checking whoever doesn't get lynched between MLeo/Halp might be a good idea.