Forum Mafia - Shawshank Redemption - Salvation lies within

[Exalt]

[5] Sherlock Holmes - Exalt, PartyFalcon, jessup, scarlet, voth
[3] Jessup - Sherlock Holmes, Zeebu, Kassius
[3] Beast - WillBy, the_paul, halp
[3] scarlet - m_leonhard, Vehicle, field
[1] willby - Beast

FYI, this was the final D1 votecount as far as I can tell.

From what I'm seeing, the Sherlock wagon looks pretty pure. Maybe PF is scum, but I'm going to just assume no right now due to my PoE.

Jessup wagon looks pure too, considering Sherlock flipped town, Kassius full-claimed, and Zeebu could go either way.

That leaves: Beast/Scarlet/WillBy wagons. Beast votes WillBy no matter what, so I'm striking that one down for now.

So whose left? Beast/Scarlet wagons.

Paul flipped Cult and Field came back inno through Voth. Whose left on those wagons?

[3] Beast - WillBy,the_paul, halp
[3] scarlet - m_leonhard, Vehicle, field

[scarlet]

I don't agree with either of the cases Vehicle spent D1 then D2 pursuing, but his reasons for them are believable reasons that a townie could hold.
I'd object to a vehicle lynch

[Exalt]

Dunno why you think Zeebu is half as scummy as m_leo or halp.

A hard stance on Zeebu. Worth it.

What if I replaced him with Vehicle? Would you object to that?

[kthx]

kthx if it's extended I'll probably miss the end of the day, so I'll vote for ending the phase at 6 instead of an unspecifiable time

Yeah, seems like cutting an hour off is more reasonable for quite a few reasons. I'll give it 5 hours to simmer and by noon(central) I will post the corrected time.

[kthx]

Earlier is better for me, since that's like 3 am or something for me.

Normally it wouldn't be an issue but I have a friend flying in for a crawfish boil and I am fairly certain I will be 5 car bombs deep by 7. Just wanted to provide clarity for the mild phase rescheduling.

[scarlet]

kthx if it's extended I'll probably miss the end of the day, so I'll vote for ending the phase at 6 instead of an unspecifiable time

[Exalt]

Zeebu's D1 was solid enough imo, but he hasn't done anything D2.

Eat shit. You absolutely do have to justify your cases to me, if you want me to buy into them. If you thought willby was scum, and you had a way to convince me to vote him with you, you absolutely had the responsibility to do that.
Anyway, now that you're coming around to the same cases I've been riding since N1, I'll take the opportunity to say: what else am I going to do, if you refuse to consider lynching someone that you are now fine with giving an ultimatum about, but attack the (bullshit) cases you are sitting on? Fakeclaim cop with guilty or give shitty ultimatums with some madeup role? I don't have that level of confidence in my reads, and I'm not walking us into two mislynches in a row (including my own) if I'm wrong and m_leo is just a moron.

PPE:
The read on field at the time of Voth's claim and the end of Day1 are totally different and contains roughly 6000% more material, since field more or less didn't post on D1.

No, I don't. Also, who said I believed WillBy was scum for real? Am I voting him right now?

[Exalt]

A quick aside;

I have a poker game tonight close to 7pm when the phase is due to change. Would you rather me shut the phase down a hour early or hold off until I get home which might extend it several hours depending on how drunk I am and how well I'm doing?

Earlier is better for me, since that's like 3 am or something for me.

[Exalt]

kthx Thanks for the VC.



Willby(3) - kassius, beast, m_leon
Beast(2) - halp, vehicle
M_leon(2) - scarlet, field
Halp(2) - voth, exalt
Field(1) - jessup

Non voters- zeebu - partyfalcon

Updated.

[kthx]

A quick aside;

I have a poker game tonight close to 7pm when the phase is due to change. Would you rather me shut the phase down a hour early or hold off until I get home which might extend it several hours depending on how drunk I am and how well I'm doing?

[scarlet]

Zeebu's D1 was solid enough imo, but he hasn't done anything D2.

I don't have to justify it to you. If you think I'm scum, vote for me. If you do not, then vote for someone else. I'm not going to explain everything I do just because you demand it. Focus on catching scum. If you think that scum is me, place a vote on me.

Eat shit. You absolutely do have to justify your cases to me, if you want me to buy into them. If you thought willby was scum, and you had a way to convince me to vote him with you, you absolutely had the responsibility to do that.
Anyway, now that you're coming around to the same cases I've been riding since N1, I'll take the opportunity to say: what else am I going to do, if you refuse to consider lynching someone that you are now fine with giving an ultimatum about, but attack the (bullshit) cases you are sitting on? Fakeclaim cop with guilty or give shitty ultimatums with some madeup role? I don't have that level of confidence in my reads, and I'm not walking us into two mislynches in a row (including my own) if I'm wrong and m_leo is just a moron.

PPE:
The read on field at the time of Voth's claim and the end of Day1 are totally different and contains roughly 6000% more material, since field more or less didn't post on D1.

[Exalt]

I do

Your argument has swayed me Zeebu.

UNVOTE: Zeebu

VOTE: Halp

[Zeebu]

Zeebu, Halp, or MLeo

I ask again, anyone have any complaints against this?

I do

[kthx]

Vote count 12 hours remaining in current phase.

Willby(3) - kassius, beast, m_leon
Beast(2) - halp, vehicle
M_leon(2) - scarlet, field
Field(1) - jessup
Halp(1) - voth
Zeebu(1) - exalt

Non voters- zeebu - partyfalcon

[Exalt]

Fine. Then scumhunt. Sitting where I am, one of your top 2 scum reads is 95% wrong and the other I have serious doubts about. When I say make a power play if you're going to do it, I mean that it is also on you to put your money where your mouth is and do something. Don't just tell everyone else to do it for you. I see the reasoning behind wanting others to chime in, but you just posted a list of players full of question marks and then voted the most inactive player in the game. That is not scum hunting, and you make me nervous.

Field was a legit SR that you proved wrong mechanically, not because he was looking overly townie by any means in the game thread. Let's not pretend you knew better, otherwise you'd not have investigated his ass in the first place.

I will discuss WillBy when I'm good and ready to do so. Not everything I do might make sense, but I have reasons for them.